Hi reader! This is Ellen Loveless (really, it is!) and I am finally responding since Shelby is, once again, sending this false narrative out in his email blasts. It's important to note that the texts in the story were cherry picked by Shelby Williams and he is the one who sent the texts to Current Revolt to plant the story and create this false narrative. Also, I learned that this text group was created in April 2023; well before either candidate was running for Chair. This group chat included supporters of mine and of Shelby's, so the conversation was not "hidden" or a "conspiracy". I have also learned that theses texts sent Shelby sent to Current Revolt were only a portion of a two day conversation and these texts do not tell the full story of what they were discussing. This "story" broke on March 8th at 4:42pm. There was no need for it to be written as it has no merit. Let me tell you why: This all has to do with an Interim Chair election that was held on March 8th. I thought I would run for Interim Chair when I made it to the runoff. Why not? I am running for the position so why would I not run for interim? Shelby, however, made it difficult by spreading around that it would be "damaging to the party if we ran for interim chair". I thought that was odd since we were both running for Chair. However, Shelby and his supporters successfully spread that narrative around. During this time between the primary and the interim election, I learned of Evan's intent to run. I brought this to Shelby's attention on March 7th and said I am not in favor of supporting Evan in this bid (at the time I did not tell Shelby Evan's name) Did you read that? I am the one who told Shelby of this on Thursday March 7th. Evan called Shelby later on Thursday and then Shelby and I spoke and agreed that neither of us would support Even for Interim Chair.
Between the evening of March 5th and the morning of March 8th, it became apparent to me that I needed to allow a "neutral third party" to lead during the runoff per Shelby's insistence due to the successful spread of the narrative. (I think it was because he thought he would lose the interim race, but that is just speculation on my part.) I called Shelby on Friday morning, March 8th, to tell him I would not run for Interim Chair and that I had asked Howard Powers to run per his request of a neutral third party. Shelby and I spoke hours BEFORE he received the text thread (apparent by the timestamp on the texts) and then proceeded to send this to Current Revolt and his longtime friend who wrote the story. If he was really concerned about what is best for our party, why was his first response to send the "story" to Current Revolt? Why not call me, the general counsel of the party, or anyone in the thread? Why go straight to CR? Of course we know why. He was not happy he was in a Runoff with a woman who had zero name recognition 85 days before the primary and he is a second-term city councilman. It seemed he was frustrated that my message resonates with voters and my campaign built steam. So instead of having real conversations about issues and let voters decide based on our merits, he attempted to embarrass me and, I believe, coerce me to drop out of the race. (More on that, too...)
I filed to run on December 11th (that's another story you should know - ask me). The next day, Shelby called to introduce himself. We had a friendly conversation and at the conclusion I said, "we are going to run a clean race and become the example of how a primary should be run!" he agreed. Sadly, that has not been my experience. This retread of a false narrative is simply an attempt to discredit me. It's too bad, we could have engaged in healthy conversations that elevate the Republican Party and promote the principles of why Republicans should be elected in every race across this Collin County during this critical election year. We could and should be talking policy and ideas! That was my hope! Instead this race has devolved into false, empty attacks with zero conversation about my ideas to strengthen our party and walk toward Victory together in November!
I have a vision of a strong, relevant Collin County Republican Party! I plan to create a strong message about who Republicans are and why to vote Republican! I have a plan to spread the message far and wide and we will experience VICTORY in November! Will you join me in my vision of spreading a positive message? Please see my Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/ellenloveless4ccgopchair/
Shelby intended to hurt my campaign by creating this story and recycling it. The false story didn’t hurt me, instead he hurt the people in the thread. Shelby’s release of the names of people in his cherry picked texts caused issues and hurt for several of them. Many received condemning emails and texts with accusations and/or a demand to resign their positions. Some friendships were lost due to the inaccurate picture painted about the people in the text thread. Do we need a Chair that creates division? One who goes to the press instead of a person?
As Chair I will have conversations with individuals to resolve conflict. In fact, recently I took issue with something one of Shelby’s supporters said to me in front of a group of people. I did not go to the press and I did not post it on Facebook. When the ability to have a conversation presented itself, I looked him in the eye and we had an adult conversation. The conversation ended well and we shook hands. This is my how I operate. I will continue to handle conflict in this way if I am privileged to win on May 28th.
Speaking of being unaware of back room deals in local politics, are you actually unaware that Shelby Williams and recently resigned CCGOP Party Chair John Myers conspired to try to sneak Shelby in as the ONLY candidate on the ballot? After the party had the election last fall to replace Abraham George (following his own very-welcomed resignation), John Myers won and we all coalesced behind him and his commitment to run the party strongly and fairly for the CCGOP Primary elections in March, the local municipal elections in May, and then the November general elections.
Unfortunately, John later made the decision to not run after all, but instead of informing the Executive Committee (all the Precinct Chairs) of that decision, he secretly only told Shelby Williams and asked Shelby to seek the office in secret. Shelby literally asked a Precinct Chair who learned of this on the final day of filing to "not tell anyone" so that Shelby could be an uncontested hand-picked replacement as the Party Chair to satisfy the "establishment" which John Myers was a strong soldier for and representative of. Fortunately, that Precinct Chair quickly spread the word and that was how Howard Powers and Ellen Loveless were even able to rush in on the last day to register to run against Shelby for the Chair position.
So, this was clearly very unethical behavior by both John Myers and Shelby Williams - and why the majority of Precinct Chairs do not want Shelby as our next CCGOP Chair. The sad thing is the voting public was not made aware of these unethical practices by Shelby Williams because both Howard and Ellen chose to take the high road in campaigning (unlike what we saw from the likes of Matt Shaheen and Jeff Leach) and did not go to the press (like you) with the story. I wish they had, because it is simply the truth, not mud slinging. Hope you will write a story on this. I will be happy to be quoted in it: John Donovan, Precinct Chair 137.
Contact me directly and I will happily assist you with the evidence and contacts involved. The filing dates information is public record for Shelby, Howard and Ellen. I should be able to provide you minutes and recordings of our CCGOP meetings (once I confirm that information s allowed to be shared with the media) to verify John Myers own admission of his actions. Shelby has publicly admitted during one of the forums during his campaign that John Myers came to him privately and asked him to run, and I am sure the Precinct Chair whom he told to "not tell anyone" on that last day for opponents to sign up will be happy to validate that for you personally.
The real issue with Ellen is that she and her supporters are elitists. They argue that a mere majority of precinct chairs should be allowed to choose the county chair and were somehow deprived of that because Shelby outsmarted them and filed at the last minute. (Like nobody ever did THAT before).
The Texas Election Code specifies the entire county votes for the County Chair. Anybody can file with the right number of names on a petition. Any number of people can file. Ellen filed AFTER Shelby did, as an afterthought. Her supporters admit that as they complain they had no idea Shelby was going to file.
How can Ellen and her supporters actually brag about how she represents the will of the people when 11,000 more people voted for Shelby than her in the general election?
Democrats have elitist superdelegates who are entitled to override the will of the voters to choose whomever they want (Stay tuned, I expect Dems will pull that at last minute to replace Biden).
The Republican party believes one man, one vote, everyone is equal when choosing county chair. This policy got us Ken Paxton, Gov. Abbott, Keith Self. Think Dade Phelan, was he elected majority house leader by popular vote, or was it closer to superdelegate method?
Ignoring all that, consider these reasons why Ellen Loveless is unsuitable for the CCGOP in any leadership position, let alone chairman. Do not take my word for it, just ask her, or ask people who support her.
Ellen voted to no longer accept money from the CCGOPs largest benefactor because their law firm represents same-sex couples who want to adopt a child. Those of us who have adopted children in are family are well aware that having two loving gay parents is immeasurably better than living in foster care. I offered a hypothetical, if planned parenthood wanted to give us a million dollars? She said she would turn it down. As if the CCGOP couldn't put that to better use than Parenthood could. Just consider the logic of this argument.
She recently said reason she was running is for the "Glory of God". I get that, I'm not questioning her faith, but is that a WINNING thing to say? How can she claim she is trying to bring the party together when she has to explain to our Hindi, Muslim and non-believer constituents?
Now tie these together. She has an ambiguous faith-shaming platform shaming agenda where some committee will decide if a person's money isn't welcome.
How would that even work? When challenged supports say they will look at the company website. Will they make people fill out an application to see if you agree with ALL the core principals? Look at the GOP core principals if you can even find them.
Will her party principles purity team reject YOUR support like she advocated for and voted to BAN donations from a law firm that represents same-sex couples who wish to adopt?
Just ask her how this would even work, how would she codify this in a rule. Her purity test and her ideas of how we should take the CCGOP and Collin County is insulting, unworkable, and crazy stupid.
In the words of Ronald Reagan, "The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally – not a 20 percent traitor.”
Ellen needs to withdraw from the runoff in the best interest of ALL the citizens of Collin County and in the interest of basic humanity and fair play.
David A. Lethe
Speaking for MYSELF.
P.S. Ask Ellen when/if she will demand resignation of PC chairs who allegedly conspired to use CCGOP official X account to advance their political agendas.
Also examine the site right now. Are there still posts advocating for or against any Republicans during the primary process??
If they are still there, I assure you the person who posted them is NOT speaking for Collin County GOP. We NEVER had a vote on any of these posts.
At first glance this article is alarming. However, upon inspection of the texts, I think this entire thing is extremely blown out of proportion from what is actually going on. After viewing the entire video (as I would not comment on anything of detail otherwise) I think that the motive behind Altimus’ idea of featuring candidates on the social media is that voters would more align with Loveless upon seeing side by side features of BOTH candidates. Also note that Altimus used the word BOTH to explicitly agree with Freeman's text sent immediately before Altimus' that they could ask BOTH candidates to each make videos to be posted to the social media to be fair. This text is left out in the main article body, and I think that has massive weight to the actual meaning of the text. This text can be seen at 0:22 in the full video. This is a very easy thing to see in this conversation without having to dive into it in depth lol.
TLDR: Conclusion- this is a bunch of volunteer precinct chairs and a social media chair discussing local politics. Some of the group support a specific candidate for their local party, and they want to help in that campaign. They’re throwing around ideas, and that’s all they are, ideas. There are no backroom deals being made or offered, it’s a genuine discussion between people. If you want to know why I came to this conclusion keep reading lol. If not, consider the severity of the claims made in this article and please recognize the harm and threat the conclusions of this article pose to your fellow patriots trying to drain the swamp.
Context is King is it not? We are all conservatives here, and we pride ourselves on understanding a fuller picture of the situation without being hasty and emotional. Hence why I watched the full text video, and hence why I am writing this comment to explain that this whole article’s take is not what's really going on here. Also seeing John Donovan's comment that was quickly posted in response to this article also makes me think there is a lot of context around this race that we do not currently know about... Of which the detail in that comment leads me believe the actual nature of the text conversation is merely a last minute brainstorming about the interim election upon inspection.
I think these things are enough to bring into question the analysis in this article. However, I will approach each section below to be thorough, given the context presented in the full video, as well as the actual nature of the texts shown. I would appreciate the time of day from Current Revolt that they would also take the time to consider what these texts actually are. This is not to bash on Current Revolt, but instead to provide constructive criticism to ensure that we as conservatives are truly understanding the situation and analyzing everything, without acting on emotions or hasty conclusions.
Claim 1: “Altemus also seems to state that Loveless is the weaker candidate, noting that she will struggle if she were to win as chair.”
In the texts shown, Altimus is not claiming that Loveless is the weaker candidate, but rather acknowledging that the county party chair is a major position that takes up a lot of time (I would imagine it does lol). I think the sentiment here is that it would be a lot to ask a candidate to both work in an interim position, and campaign against someone in an open election. This interim election, from the video, letter, and obvious county party bylaws, seems to be only by elected precinct chairs in the county party (elected volunteer positions btw), hence why the interim election would not necessarily correlate to the GOP primary election (general election for county party positions).
The other idea here in that text is that Wiliams would use whatever Loveless can’t do in 2 months (which is a stupid short amount of time to expect anything to get done with a county party that meets once a month) against her in the runoff election, not that she wouldn’t do it, but that there simply isn’t enough time.
Claim 2: “Additionally, an offer seems to be made to give Altemus (Communications Chair) the Vice Chairman position.”
First the texts in the order shown for this claim are missing numerous texts in between.
Text block 1 following this claim is shown at 1:32 in the “full video.”
Text block 2 is shown in the video at 2:05.
~7 missing texts in between shown texts in article.
Text 3 at 2:31.
~4 Missing texts in between.
The conversation in the chain leading up to the first text shown in the article is about what Altimus could be doing if he stepped down from the communication chair to run as interim chairman. The statement made is not an offer for vicechair, but a consideration of the chairman appointing officers and that Altimus could throw his hat into the ring if Loveless was elected interim chairman. The only hidden meaning in this chain is that it seems like the majority of people in this group text do not actually want Altimus as the interim chair. Therefore this take of an “offer seems to be made” is completely baseless and even a rough analysis of the texts reveals this. Not to mention that immediately after this text block Altimus stated that he had not talked to Loveless yet about running for interim chair (nor had anyone else in that group text voiced that they had either) and that she was not responding to his calls (2:34). In context claiming he was even “seemingly” offered vice chair is a CNN stretch right there...
Claim 3: “An entire plan seems to be concocted to run Altemus as interim chair in order to help out Loveless.”
Speaking of out of order, this text is at 0:52 in the video…
Leading up to this a text left out by Vor before this picture says, verbatim, “Ellen has full time to give to this position. I actually don’t think she would struggle with both” (going back to claim 1 in this article that Loveless was a weak candidate also showing in context was actually said) “She’s determined, strong willed, hard worker. Her campaign has been impressive IMHO. Her use of social media, family, videos, etc. is exactly the example of what needs to be used to get our municipal candidates across the finish line. So far, she’s leading by example already.”
This is in response to the brainstorming (which, spoilers to MY final take, is what this all is text chain is lmao) made in texts shown at the beginning of the article that Loveless does not actually need any additional social media help for new ideas. Instead Vor is saying what Loveless was doing should be used as an example for other races in the county. Immediately after Vor then comments on how Altimus running for interim chair could cause the decline of the county social media presence if he stepped away from the social media chair role.
Altimus then asks for strategy advice from Vor. Vor’s response as shown in the article actually seems to be a strategy QUESTION for Altimus as to whether or not he has contacted anyone outside of this group about running for interim chair. Seemingly (as an actual investigative take on this text chain) if he did not get a majority of support from the chairs (who I’ll remind you are voting for the interim election) that the vote would be split between chairs that seem to support Loveless and chairs that seem to support Wiliams. In this case with Loveless chairs splitting between Loveless and Altimus, causing Wiliams to win Interim chair. Not that it was a plan or scheme to get him to interim chair. Again, the author of this article claiming that the whole reason Altimus would be running was exclusively to help Loveless directly, does not seem to be the motivation here, but rather his motivation was to give Loveless the opportunity to focus on running in the election, without distracting her or Williams with having to operate as interim chair.
Claim 4: “We’re not familiar with county bylaws, but it does seem unfair for the Communications Director to use his position to promote or push a specific candidate. He also seems to admit it’s unfair here:”
Timestamp: 0:41, for context. This is in the middle of the last claim the author used. It’s a side comment (clearly a joke here, like what are you on?) about Vor’s texts
“I’m devastated to lose Evan and Michelle’s social input. Now our social media will be dead” and the one before that
“She’s determined, strong willed, hard worker. Her campaign has been impressive IMHO. Her use of social media, family, videos, etc. is exactly the example of what needs to be used to get our municipal candidates across the finish line. So far, she’s leading by example already” as referenced in my deconstruction of the last claim. What he’s doing is acknowledging that Loveless has had a good social media campaign.
My translation of Altimus’ four texts shown in context:
“Man I don’t know good strategy and it seems that’s the down fall of grassroots candidates, they don’t know strategy either.”
“Why can’t the grassroots come together and always do that for their campaigns?”
“Cheat code: I’m experienced with social media and can help other grassroots municipal candidates with running their campaigns like that.”
“Don’t worry I’m not an establishment plant” (The implication here by Altimus is that Wiliams is establishment, which I cannot confirm nor deny. However, my brief examination of this situation and John Donovan’s comment seem to at least potentially corroborate this, though I myself will not make that claim atm).
Is it a breach of county bylaws to help other people with their races? He’s not pushing a specific candidate nor intending to be biased on the social media because… in the video… 0:53 “I RUN THE SOCIAL MEDIA. Even if Shelby wins I will highly feature BOTH candidates so the person who does more [videos can have them posted].” The implication here of course is that whoever would win interim chair would have less time to do campaign work. Which we see Altimus go back and forth on in the video of the whole conversation, his preference of Williams or Loveless being interim chair if not him. And at one point in the text chain Altimus seems to briefly come to the conclusion that he should just be the next chair period because he gets shut down in the county meetings and by the chairman anyways when he has ideas.
1: No one in this group genuinely wanted Altimus as interim chair. Sorry to burst Altimus’ bubble, and anyone else’s fantasy of conspiracy, but the majority of this group was pointing out that Altimus was better suited elsewhere within the party and that there were other things he could do. Not to mention the fact that there was obvious signs in the conversation that Altimus didn’t really even sway one way or another, but rather he just wanted change in the CCRP, my guess from the nature of the conversation of the members in it was to get rid of establishment swamp goers.
Examples in the video, 0:51 – no support from precinct chairs and a hasty bid if he ran ~Vor,
1:21 – Loveless would benefit from being interim chair ~Darland,
0:44 and 1:37 there are other ways he can help and that they would lose a good social media chair ~Vor and Darland,
1:50 him running is not strategic and this interim election has nothing to do with the general primary ~Vor,
2:02 interim chair in unpaid so why try to run for that when there are other ways to help ~Darland
2:12 oh shoot Shelby isn’t running for iterim chair!?!?!? ~Altimus
Shall I go on?
3:11 I don’t care which candidate wins ~Altimus
3:35 there could be a bunch of precinct chairs that aren’t active that suddenly show up to the interim election, and that Altimus could just throw his hat in the ring to speak his mind to everyone at the interim election ~Vor
Also this interim election was the Friday of spring break at 7:00pm? Vor and others expressed that they couldn’t be there seemingly due to this. Why was the interim election scheduled for then? PC’s do not have power over when these Party elections are scheduled. Who scheduled it for then so that people couldn’t show up for it?
2: This is not a bunch of “backroom deals”
This isn’t some elaborate “plan to promote a specific chair.” Yeah, it is a text discussion of people supporting a specific candidate. Who the heck doesn’t text other people about that? No even remotely politically active person can honestly say they have never texted someone about a political race. No political volunteer or someone who has ever blocked walked, poll greeted, held signs, texted, cold called, or posted on social media can tell me that they have never texted other people about how they can better support their candidate. This is literally just a conversation between people about a last second intra-party election and how they can navigate it, how they can support a candidate going forward.
Which ever of the great Current Revolt authors wrote this article (I’m being genuine here), I greatly appreciate your willingness to try to show us “backroom deals and discussions happening behind the scenes in local politics” but I believe that is entirely NOT the case here. Instead, this threatens volunteers to be targeted unfairly by the establishment to paint everyone in this group chat as backroom dealers, plotters, schemers, RINOs, democrats, etc. I think that there needs to be amendments to this article until more information can be obtained, because the picture this paints is very dangerous. How can any grassroots conservative feel safe to try to discuss draining the swamp with their fellow patriots if they could be plastered by a fellow conservative as being a backroom dealers playing popularity politics?
Thank you! I took me a solid 20 minutes to write I hope the spelling is good :^).
And yes I am aware this is a reddittard/libtard level response. However I was genuinely concerned after watching the video of the conversation because the picture painted was not what I initially thought it would be.
Tony, would you edit the story and add my comment to the body of the story ? Shelby keeps sharing it over and over again so it deserves a response. My comment needs to be prevalent. Feel free to correct the spelling and punctuation errors! Ha!
Hi reader! This is Ellen Loveless (really, it is!) and I am finally responding since Shelby is, once again, sending this false narrative out in his email blasts. It's important to note that the texts in the story were cherry picked by Shelby Williams and he is the one who sent the texts to Current Revolt to plant the story and create this false narrative. Also, I learned that this text group was created in April 2023; well before either candidate was running for Chair. This group chat included supporters of mine and of Shelby's, so the conversation was not "hidden" or a "conspiracy". I have also learned that theses texts sent Shelby sent to Current Revolt were only a portion of a two day conversation and these texts do not tell the full story of what they were discussing. This "story" broke on March 8th at 4:42pm. There was no need for it to be written as it has no merit. Let me tell you why: This all has to do with an Interim Chair election that was held on March 8th. I thought I would run for Interim Chair when I made it to the runoff. Why not? I am running for the position so why would I not run for interim? Shelby, however, made it difficult by spreading around that it would be "damaging to the party if we ran for interim chair". I thought that was odd since we were both running for Chair. However, Shelby and his supporters successfully spread that narrative around. During this time between the primary and the interim election, I learned of Evan's intent to run. I brought this to Shelby's attention on March 7th and said I am not in favor of supporting Evan in this bid (at the time I did not tell Shelby Evan's name) Did you read that? I am the one who told Shelby of this on Thursday March 7th. Evan called Shelby later on Thursday and then Shelby and I spoke and agreed that neither of us would support Even for Interim Chair.
Between the evening of March 5th and the morning of March 8th, it became apparent to me that I needed to allow a "neutral third party" to lead during the runoff per Shelby's insistence due to the successful spread of the narrative. (I think it was because he thought he would lose the interim race, but that is just speculation on my part.) I called Shelby on Friday morning, March 8th, to tell him I would not run for Interim Chair and that I had asked Howard Powers to run per his request of a neutral third party. Shelby and I spoke hours BEFORE he received the text thread (apparent by the timestamp on the texts) and then proceeded to send this to Current Revolt and his longtime friend who wrote the story. If he was really concerned about what is best for our party, why was his first response to send the "story" to Current Revolt? Why not call me, the general counsel of the party, or anyone in the thread? Why go straight to CR? Of course we know why. He was not happy he was in a Runoff with a woman who had zero name recognition 85 days before the primary and he is a second-term city councilman. It seemed he was frustrated that my message resonates with voters and my campaign built steam. So instead of having real conversations about issues and let voters decide based on our merits, he attempted to embarrass me and, I believe, coerce me to drop out of the race. (More on that, too...)
I filed to run on December 11th (that's another story you should know - ask me). The next day, Shelby called to introduce himself. We had a friendly conversation and at the conclusion I said, "we are going to run a clean race and become the example of how a primary should be run!" he agreed. Sadly, that has not been my experience. This retread of a false narrative is simply an attempt to discredit me. It's too bad, we could have engaged in healthy conversations that elevate the Republican Party and promote the principles of why Republicans should be elected in every race across this Collin County during this critical election year. We could and should be talking policy and ideas! That was my hope! Instead this race has devolved into false, empty attacks with zero conversation about my ideas to strengthen our party and walk toward Victory together in November!
I have a vision of a strong, relevant Collin County Republican Party! I plan to create a strong message about who Republicans are and why to vote Republican! I have a plan to spread the message far and wide and we will experience VICTORY in November! Will you join me in my vision of spreading a positive message? Please see my Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/ellenloveless4ccgopchair/
My website: https://ellenloveless.com/
And an article from last week that highlights me: https://dallasexpress.com/metroplex/love-war-amongst-republican-candidates/
Please reach out with any questions: ellen@ellenloveless.com or 214-476-2567
Vote Ellen Loveless for Collin County Republican Party Chair in the May 28th Runoff Election!
May God Bless you and May God Bless Collin County!
Ellen Loveless
FYI the full, non cherry-picked texts are in the bottom of the article in video format. It's 4 minutes long worth of texts.
Does it include the day before ?
Nobody offered to send em. Send em and we’ll post em!
Additional and important:
Shelby intended to hurt my campaign by creating this story and recycling it. The false story didn’t hurt me, instead he hurt the people in the thread. Shelby’s release of the names of people in his cherry picked texts caused issues and hurt for several of them. Many received condemning emails and texts with accusations and/or a demand to resign their positions. Some friendships were lost due to the inaccurate picture painted about the people in the text thread. Do we need a Chair that creates division? One who goes to the press instead of a person?
As Chair I will have conversations with individuals to resolve conflict. In fact, recently I took issue with something one of Shelby’s supporters said to me in front of a group of people. I did not go to the press and I did not post it on Facebook. When the ability to have a conversation presented itself, I looked him in the eye and we had an adult conversation. The conversation ended well and we shook hands. This is my how I operate. I will continue to handle conflict in this way if I am privileged to win on May 28th.
Speaking of being unaware of back room deals in local politics, are you actually unaware that Shelby Williams and recently resigned CCGOP Party Chair John Myers conspired to try to sneak Shelby in as the ONLY candidate on the ballot? After the party had the election last fall to replace Abraham George (following his own very-welcomed resignation), John Myers won and we all coalesced behind him and his commitment to run the party strongly and fairly for the CCGOP Primary elections in March, the local municipal elections in May, and then the November general elections.
Unfortunately, John later made the decision to not run after all, but instead of informing the Executive Committee (all the Precinct Chairs) of that decision, he secretly only told Shelby Williams and asked Shelby to seek the office in secret. Shelby literally asked a Precinct Chair who learned of this on the final day of filing to "not tell anyone" so that Shelby could be an uncontested hand-picked replacement as the Party Chair to satisfy the "establishment" which John Myers was a strong soldier for and representative of. Fortunately, that Precinct Chair quickly spread the word and that was how Howard Powers and Ellen Loveless were even able to rush in on the last day to register to run against Shelby for the Chair position.
So, this was clearly very unethical behavior by both John Myers and Shelby Williams - and why the majority of Precinct Chairs do not want Shelby as our next CCGOP Chair. The sad thing is the voting public was not made aware of these unethical practices by Shelby Williams because both Howard and Ellen chose to take the high road in campaigning (unlike what we saw from the likes of Matt Shaheen and Jeff Leach) and did not go to the press (like you) with the story. I wish they had, because it is simply the truth, not mud slinging. Hope you will write a story on this. I will be happy to be quoted in it: John Donovan, Precinct Chair 137.
Wow that’s a lot! Send us actual evidence and we’ll publish it. Otherwise it’s just hearsay!
Contact me directly and I will happily assist you with the evidence and contacts involved. The filing dates information is public record for Shelby, Howard and Ellen. I should be able to provide you minutes and recordings of our CCGOP meetings (once I confirm that information s allowed to be shared with the media) to verify John Myers own admission of his actions. Shelby has publicly admitted during one of the forums during his campaign that John Myers came to him privately and asked him to run, and I am sure the Precinct Chair whom he told to "not tell anyone" on that last day for opponents to sign up will be happy to validate that for you personally.
The real issue with Ellen is that she and her supporters are elitists. They argue that a mere majority of precinct chairs should be allowed to choose the county chair and were somehow deprived of that because Shelby outsmarted them and filed at the last minute. (Like nobody ever did THAT before).
The Texas Election Code specifies the entire county votes for the County Chair. Anybody can file with the right number of names on a petition. Any number of people can file. Ellen filed AFTER Shelby did, as an afterthought. Her supporters admit that as they complain they had no idea Shelby was going to file.
How can Ellen and her supporters actually brag about how she represents the will of the people when 11,000 more people voted for Shelby than her in the general election?
Democrats have elitist superdelegates who are entitled to override the will of the voters to choose whomever they want (Stay tuned, I expect Dems will pull that at last minute to replace Biden).
The Republican party believes one man, one vote, everyone is equal when choosing county chair. This policy got us Ken Paxton, Gov. Abbott, Keith Self. Think Dade Phelan, was he elected majority house leader by popular vote, or was it closer to superdelegate method?
Ignoring all that, consider these reasons why Ellen Loveless is unsuitable for the CCGOP in any leadership position, let alone chairman. Do not take my word for it, just ask her, or ask people who support her.
Ellen voted to no longer accept money from the CCGOPs largest benefactor because their law firm represents same-sex couples who want to adopt a child. Those of us who have adopted children in are family are well aware that having two loving gay parents is immeasurably better than living in foster care. I offered a hypothetical, if planned parenthood wanted to give us a million dollars? She said she would turn it down. As if the CCGOP couldn't put that to better use than Parenthood could. Just consider the logic of this argument.
She recently said reason she was running is for the "Glory of God". I get that, I'm not questioning her faith, but is that a WINNING thing to say? How can she claim she is trying to bring the party together when she has to explain to our Hindi, Muslim and non-believer constituents?
Now tie these together. She has an ambiguous faith-shaming platform shaming agenda where some committee will decide if a person's money isn't welcome.
How would that even work? When challenged supports say they will look at the company website. Will they make people fill out an application to see if you agree with ALL the core principals? Look at the GOP core principals if you can even find them.
Will her party principles purity team reject YOUR support like she advocated for and voted to BAN donations from a law firm that represents same-sex couples who wish to adopt?
Just ask her how this would even work, how would she codify this in a rule. Her purity test and her ideas of how we should take the CCGOP and Collin County is insulting, unworkable, and crazy stupid.
In the words of Ronald Reagan, "The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally – not a 20 percent traitor.”
Ellen needs to withdraw from the runoff in the best interest of ALL the citizens of Collin County and in the interest of basic humanity and fair play.
David A. Lethe
Speaking for MYSELF.
P.S. Ask Ellen when/if she will demand resignation of PC chairs who allegedly conspired to use CCGOP official X account to advance their political agendas.
Also examine the site right now. Are there still posts advocating for or against any Republicans during the primary process??
If they are still there, I assure you the person who posted them is NOT speaking for Collin County GOP. We NEVER had a vote on any of these posts.
At first glance this article is alarming. However, upon inspection of the texts, I think this entire thing is extremely blown out of proportion from what is actually going on. After viewing the entire video (as I would not comment on anything of detail otherwise) I think that the motive behind Altimus’ idea of featuring candidates on the social media is that voters would more align with Loveless upon seeing side by side features of BOTH candidates. Also note that Altimus used the word BOTH to explicitly agree with Freeman's text sent immediately before Altimus' that they could ask BOTH candidates to each make videos to be posted to the social media to be fair. This text is left out in the main article body, and I think that has massive weight to the actual meaning of the text. This text can be seen at 0:22 in the full video. This is a very easy thing to see in this conversation without having to dive into it in depth lol.
TLDR: Conclusion- this is a bunch of volunteer precinct chairs and a social media chair discussing local politics. Some of the group support a specific candidate for their local party, and they want to help in that campaign. They’re throwing around ideas, and that’s all they are, ideas. There are no backroom deals being made or offered, it’s a genuine discussion between people. If you want to know why I came to this conclusion keep reading lol. If not, consider the severity of the claims made in this article and please recognize the harm and threat the conclusions of this article pose to your fellow patriots trying to drain the swamp.
Context is King is it not? We are all conservatives here, and we pride ourselves on understanding a fuller picture of the situation without being hasty and emotional. Hence why I watched the full text video, and hence why I am writing this comment to explain that this whole article’s take is not what's really going on here. Also seeing John Donovan's comment that was quickly posted in response to this article also makes me think there is a lot of context around this race that we do not currently know about... Of which the detail in that comment leads me believe the actual nature of the text conversation is merely a last minute brainstorming about the interim election upon inspection.
I think these things are enough to bring into question the analysis in this article. However, I will approach each section below to be thorough, given the context presented in the full video, as well as the actual nature of the texts shown. I would appreciate the time of day from Current Revolt that they would also take the time to consider what these texts actually are. This is not to bash on Current Revolt, but instead to provide constructive criticism to ensure that we as conservatives are truly understanding the situation and analyzing everything, without acting on emotions or hasty conclusions.
Claim 1: “Altemus also seems to state that Loveless is the weaker candidate, noting that she will struggle if she were to win as chair.”
In the texts shown, Altimus is not claiming that Loveless is the weaker candidate, but rather acknowledging that the county party chair is a major position that takes up a lot of time (I would imagine it does lol). I think the sentiment here is that it would be a lot to ask a candidate to both work in an interim position, and campaign against someone in an open election. This interim election, from the video, letter, and obvious county party bylaws, seems to be only by elected precinct chairs in the county party (elected volunteer positions btw), hence why the interim election would not necessarily correlate to the GOP primary election (general election for county party positions).
The other idea here in that text is that Wiliams would use whatever Loveless can’t do in 2 months (which is a stupid short amount of time to expect anything to get done with a county party that meets once a month) against her in the runoff election, not that she wouldn’t do it, but that there simply isn’t enough time.
Claim 2: “Additionally, an offer seems to be made to give Altemus (Communications Chair) the Vice Chairman position.”
First the texts in the order shown for this claim are missing numerous texts in between.
Text block 1 following this claim is shown at 1:32 in the “full video.”
Text block 2 is shown in the video at 2:05.
~7 missing texts in between shown texts in article.
Text 3 at 2:31.
~4 Missing texts in between.
The conversation in the chain leading up to the first text shown in the article is about what Altimus could be doing if he stepped down from the communication chair to run as interim chairman. The statement made is not an offer for vicechair, but a consideration of the chairman appointing officers and that Altimus could throw his hat into the ring if Loveless was elected interim chairman. The only hidden meaning in this chain is that it seems like the majority of people in this group text do not actually want Altimus as the interim chair. Therefore this take of an “offer seems to be made” is completely baseless and even a rough analysis of the texts reveals this. Not to mention that immediately after this text block Altimus stated that he had not talked to Loveless yet about running for interim chair (nor had anyone else in that group text voiced that they had either) and that she was not responding to his calls (2:34). In context claiming he was even “seemingly” offered vice chair is a CNN stretch right there...
Claim 3: “An entire plan seems to be concocted to run Altemus as interim chair in order to help out Loveless.”
Speaking of out of order, this text is at 0:52 in the video…
Leading up to this a text left out by Vor before this picture says, verbatim, “Ellen has full time to give to this position. I actually don’t think she would struggle with both” (going back to claim 1 in this article that Loveless was a weak candidate also showing in context was actually said) “She’s determined, strong willed, hard worker. Her campaign has been impressive IMHO. Her use of social media, family, videos, etc. is exactly the example of what needs to be used to get our municipal candidates across the finish line. So far, she’s leading by example already.”
This is in response to the brainstorming (which, spoilers to MY final take, is what this all is text chain is lmao) made in texts shown at the beginning of the article that Loveless does not actually need any additional social media help for new ideas. Instead Vor is saying what Loveless was doing should be used as an example for other races in the county. Immediately after Vor then comments on how Altimus running for interim chair could cause the decline of the county social media presence if he stepped away from the social media chair role.
Altimus then asks for strategy advice from Vor. Vor’s response as shown in the article actually seems to be a strategy QUESTION for Altimus as to whether or not he has contacted anyone outside of this group about running for interim chair. Seemingly (as an actual investigative take on this text chain) if he did not get a majority of support from the chairs (who I’ll remind you are voting for the interim election) that the vote would be split between chairs that seem to support Loveless and chairs that seem to support Wiliams. In this case with Loveless chairs splitting between Loveless and Altimus, causing Wiliams to win Interim chair. Not that it was a plan or scheme to get him to interim chair. Again, the author of this article claiming that the whole reason Altimus would be running was exclusively to help Loveless directly, does not seem to be the motivation here, but rather his motivation was to give Loveless the opportunity to focus on running in the election, without distracting her or Williams with having to operate as interim chair.
Claim 4: “We’re not familiar with county bylaws, but it does seem unfair for the Communications Director to use his position to promote or push a specific candidate. He also seems to admit it’s unfair here:”
Timestamp: 0:41, for context. This is in the middle of the last claim the author used. It’s a side comment (clearly a joke here, like what are you on?) about Vor’s texts
“I’m devastated to lose Evan and Michelle’s social input. Now our social media will be dead” and the one before that
“She’s determined, strong willed, hard worker. Her campaign has been impressive IMHO. Her use of social media, family, videos, etc. is exactly the example of what needs to be used to get our municipal candidates across the finish line. So far, she’s leading by example already” as referenced in my deconstruction of the last claim. What he’s doing is acknowledging that Loveless has had a good social media campaign.
My translation of Altimus’ four texts shown in context:
“Man I don’t know good strategy and it seems that’s the down fall of grassroots candidates, they don’t know strategy either.”
“Why can’t the grassroots come together and always do that for their campaigns?”
“Cheat code: I’m experienced with social media and can help other grassroots municipal candidates with running their campaigns like that.”
“Don’t worry I’m not an establishment plant” (The implication here by Altimus is that Wiliams is establishment, which I cannot confirm nor deny. However, my brief examination of this situation and John Donovan’s comment seem to at least potentially corroborate this, though I myself will not make that claim atm).
Is it a breach of county bylaws to help other people with their races? He’s not pushing a specific candidate nor intending to be biased on the social media because… in the video… 0:53 “I RUN THE SOCIAL MEDIA. Even if Shelby wins I will highly feature BOTH candidates so the person who does more [videos can have them posted].” The implication here of course is that whoever would win interim chair would have less time to do campaign work. Which we see Altimus go back and forth on in the video of the whole conversation, his preference of Williams or Loveless being interim chair if not him. And at one point in the text chain Altimus seems to briefly come to the conclusion that he should just be the next chair period because he gets shut down in the county meetings and by the chairman anyways when he has ideas.
Conclusion:
1: No one in this group genuinely wanted Altimus as interim chair. Sorry to burst Altimus’ bubble, and anyone else’s fantasy of conspiracy, but the majority of this group was pointing out that Altimus was better suited elsewhere within the party and that there were other things he could do. Not to mention the fact that there was obvious signs in the conversation that Altimus didn’t really even sway one way or another, but rather he just wanted change in the CCRP, my guess from the nature of the conversation of the members in it was to get rid of establishment swamp goers.
Examples in the video, 0:51 – no support from precinct chairs and a hasty bid if he ran ~Vor,
1:21 – Loveless would benefit from being interim chair ~Darland,
0:44 and 1:37 there are other ways he can help and that they would lose a good social media chair ~Vor and Darland,
1:50 him running is not strategic and this interim election has nothing to do with the general primary ~Vor,
2:02 interim chair in unpaid so why try to run for that when there are other ways to help ~Darland
2:12 oh shoot Shelby isn’t running for iterim chair!?!?!? ~Altimus
Shall I go on?
3:11 I don’t care which candidate wins ~Altimus
3:35 there could be a bunch of precinct chairs that aren’t active that suddenly show up to the interim election, and that Altimus could just throw his hat in the ring to speak his mind to everyone at the interim election ~Vor
Also this interim election was the Friday of spring break at 7:00pm? Vor and others expressed that they couldn’t be there seemingly due to this. Why was the interim election scheduled for then? PC’s do not have power over when these Party elections are scheduled. Who scheduled it for then so that people couldn’t show up for it?
2: This is not a bunch of “backroom deals”
This isn’t some elaborate “plan to promote a specific chair.” Yeah, it is a text discussion of people supporting a specific candidate. Who the heck doesn’t text other people about that? No even remotely politically active person can honestly say they have never texted someone about a political race. No political volunteer or someone who has ever blocked walked, poll greeted, held signs, texted, cold called, or posted on social media can tell me that they have never texted other people about how they can better support their candidate. This is literally just a conversation between people about a last second intra-party election and how they can navigate it, how they can support a candidate going forward.
Which ever of the great Current Revolt authors wrote this article (I’m being genuine here), I greatly appreciate your willingness to try to show us “backroom deals and discussions happening behind the scenes in local politics” but I believe that is entirely NOT the case here. Instead, this threatens volunteers to be targeted unfairly by the establishment to paint everyone in this group chat as backroom dealers, plotters, schemers, RINOs, democrats, etc. I think that there needs to be amendments to this article until more information can be obtained, because the picture this paints is very dangerous. How can any grassroots conservative feel safe to try to discuss draining the swamp with their fellow patriots if they could be plastered by a fellow conservative as being a backroom dealers playing popularity politics?
Wow. Our article is 380 words and your comments combined are 1,354 words long.
That's a lot of effort for a comment. Good stuff!
Thank you! I took me a solid 20 minutes to write I hope the spelling is good :^).
And yes I am aware this is a reddittard/libtard level response. However I was genuinely concerned after watching the video of the conversation because the picture painted was not what I initially thought it would be.
Tony, would you edit the story and add my comment to the body of the story ? Shelby keeps sharing it over and over again so it deserves a response. My comment needs to be prevalent. Feel free to correct the spelling and punctuation errors! Ha!
No offense Ellen, I don’t read anything I can’t consume in less than 5 minutes. I’ll pin your comment though to the top of this section though!
I think you revealed something happening all over, very entrenched. Was this person bragging about lying? That I have not read .
I think Abraham George should run to fill the vacancy he left to run since he lost the HD race. 🤷♀️