This is what making everyone play by the same set of rules looks like. It’s not bad enough we have to fight the psycho dems but we also have to fight our own establishment. After fallowing all the rules to hold a special meeting the “establishment” doesn’t recognize it because the resolutions aren’t in their best interest. Most of the resolutions restore power to the body of the CEC and away from the county chair and his followers.
An easy way to recognize an establishment (rino) is when they call us trying to holding them to the rules as “extremist”.
This meeting has to happen or we lose our party. You have choices. Constitutionalist, establishment and liberals. It shouldn’t be a difficult choice.
We are finally winning. This is why the meeting was so chaotic. Brent and his followers no longer have the votes to do their bidding and we, the grassroots do.
Brents followers (establishment) did exactly what he instructed them to do during a zoom meeting he had with them prior to the meeting. He called for all the chaos.
I would like to point out the fact that our Party, at least the Conservative base, has been under attack since Obama's first term and likely before that. Battleground Texas has been working non stop to infiltrate the Party working with the established GOP RINOs and ex Gingrich Contract With America bunch of traitors to destroy the Conservative base of this Party. We must exorcise our Party of this poisonous element with extreme prejudice and a no holds barred style of fighting them because that is exactly what they are doing to the rank and file conservative base who have aligned with MAGA patriots to try and save this country.
Stories like this underscore the need for our state Legislature to take a look at our election code. I generally think our primaries should not be open primaries as they are now. This would do a lot. I also think we may do well by making the EC members elect the position of County Chair. There have been too many issues in recent years. Does Rob Morrow come to mind?
You continually prove that this site is dedicated to spin and propaganda of extremists. If you would like to exhibit true journalism then start interviewing both sides. The clown show was instigated and planned by a fanatical group that just wants to take control of meetings and shows no desire to do the actual work of the county party; which is to help promote republican candidates and move more elected offices into the R column.
For example: How can you enter activities that happened in February into the meeting minutes of January. You cannot time travel into the future for the past minutes. That is out of order. A small vocal minority wants to host meetings in shady back rooms, not for the purpose of getting out the vote or registering more republican voters. No instead they plot to take over the DCRP. And that is the real story that your site refuses to acknowledge.
The sane republicans of Denton County which represent a large majority are embarrassed by the clown show hosted by the fringe. It turns off voters, and the Democrats are loving every second. The very Precinct Chair you show in the video at the mic was a card carrying member of the Democrat party at one point, and maybe a plant now.
Buckle up buttercup because Brent Biden and his crew of losers will get the same treatment every single CEC meeting until he is gone. The Denton County good Ole girl club is coming to an end as Jayne & Diane will turn into oil soon and the grassroots Patriots will continue defending the County from leftist trolls and establishment hacks like Brent Biden and his immoral, perverted friends & family.
You must be a part of the disgraceful BIG TENT dupes, fools and tools of the left. You think that by constantly backhanding and offending your core conservative base and playing kissy foot and kissy ass with the leftards of the Party we will gain more Republicans. How disconnected from reality you must be. It is those like you who must be forced from the Party and moved to the RAT Party where you would be more at home. Your days are numbered because Americans are waking up more and more every day and realizing why people like you pose an even bigger danger to conservatism than the left does because you pretend to be a Republican when you seriously are not.
We're extremists how? Because we believe there are 2 genders and we want fair elections? Funny you call us extremists while adopting leftist talking points.
Democracy is a hell of a thing when *your* side is the minority. Which was the case last Thursday. It's laughable you have the audacity to call the majority of precinct chairs a "small vocal minority" while saying a "real story" needs to be told. You're a liar, a schizophrenic, or senile.
You can't register for a party in the state of Texas so it's impossible to be a "card carrying" member of *any* party. And this statement is laughable while your guy Brent donated money to a Democrat candidate.
That "fanatical group" is the majority of Denton GOP now who simply want the rules to be followed. If a majority of the PCs present had voted to sustain the chairman the meeting would have gone on, but of course they didn't. The current chairman wants to disregard the rules and run the party like a dictator. And the true democrat "plant" is more likely the current chairman who donated to a known democrat in a blatant violation of the oath he took as a precinct chair.
The chairman was following the rules and the Parliamentarian which is a sitting Judge in Denton county agreed. The lack of decorum for the Chair and Judge are shameful.
Lies: Here are the rules we followed quite clearly stated: Rule 62:5 To raise a point of order, a member rises and, without waiting to be recognized, immediately addresses the chair, saying, "I rise to a point of order," or simply, "Point of order!" The chair must then ask the member to state the point; and after the member does so, the chair is obligated either to rule whether the point is "well taken" --- briefly stating the reasons for the ruling---or to submit the question to the assembly.
Appeal the decision of the chair
Rule 62:6 Immediately after the chair makes a ruling, any member who disagrees with it may then move an Appeal (unless another Appeal is already pending or an appeal would be dilatory because there cannot possibly be two reasonable opinions on the question.) The member does this by rising and, without waiting to be recognized, addressing the chair, saying, "I appeal from the decision of the chair." If the Appeal is seconded, the chair must state the question on it, clearly explain the exact parliamentary question at issue, allow any permissible debate and put the question to a vote, as shown in 24.
If the Chair fails to to respond to the Point of Order
Rule 62:7 These procedures enable the majority to ensure enforcement of the rules unless the chair fails to respond to and resolve the Point of Order, fails to respond appropriately to any Appeal, or fails to act in accordance with the assembly's decision on the Appeal (or on a Point of Order submitted by the chair to the assembly).
Rule 62:8 If the chair ignores a point of order that is not dilatory, the member can repeat the point of order a second and third time and if the chair still ignores it, the member, standing in his place, can immediately put the point of order to a vote without debate. The question may be put as, "Is the point of order that ... well taken? If the point of order was that the chair improperly ignored another motion, the member may, instead of repeating the point of order, repeat the original motion, and if it is seconded and if the chair still ignores it, may, standing in his place, put the ignored motion to vote without debate.
Rule 62:9 Likewise, if the chair ignores an appeal appropriately made and seconded, a member can repeat the appeal and if, despite it being seconded, the chair ignores it again, the member can repeat it a third time and if it is again seconded but still ignored by the the chair, the member can immediately, standing in his place, put the appeal to a vote without debate. The question may be put as: "Shall the decision of the chair be sustained?"
More lies: "3.03 Special Meetings. Special Meetings of the Executive Committee to consider items of urgent
business may be held at any time upon a written call issued by the County Chairman by mail or
email, or a written call signed by twenty percent (20%) or more of members of the Executive
Committee in office at the time of signing the call." The bylaw nowhere states that the chairman has sole discretion to determine what is urgent or not. The bylaw does not even mention a parliamentarian. So this is more proof the chairman thinks he can disregard the bylaws and rule like a tinhorn dictator.
Mar 20, 2023·edited Mar 21, 2023Liked by Current Revolt
As Mr. Earnest said below, same thing happening in Montgomery County except we do know the chairman's wife is a political consultant, funded by two commissioners, as well as a fellow RINO minority of sycophants who're trying to take control of the local party by ignoring the Election Code (172.118) in not uploading the majority's appointments to precinct chair positions, RPT Rules (while the RPT Chair and many of the RINO SREC remain silent), our own bylaws and Roberts Rule(RONR). What does it say about the party chair and many in the SREC when they won't enforce the state party's rules against a rogue chair? Unfortunately they didn't take a stand and we had to take it to the courts.
The Republican Party of Texas(RPT) Rules give the RPT/SREC enforcement powers (see No's. 4, 5 & 8). Each one is clear giving the RPT/SREC their authority.
Apparently, the SREC felt it was beneath them to take action on their own rules(and/or were protecting their county chairs), so we took it straight to SCOTX in the form of a Writ of Mandamus, bypassing all of the recusals that would certainly happen at the District and Appellate levels.
I was at that CEC meeting, I’m just a concerned American voter, I recorded the whole thing. How did Brent Hagenbuch get elected? He is divisive to say the least and wonder what his real motivations really are. What does an average person do to get him kicked out of the party? He clearly does not represent my interests in the Republican Party. I was proud of the 67 Precinct Chairs that stood up to him!
Look no further than when Rob Morrow was elected as Republican County Chair for Travis County over James Dickey, who later ended up being Chairman of the RPT.
Exactly! Why? My understanding is that Brent was the only one on the ballot for Chair, there were other applications that did not get processed for one reason or another. I’d like to know why they didn’t process the other applications and why there is no exception to process so there’s more than one person in the ballot.
Mar 20, 2023Liked by Current Revolt, Gordon Bombay
Imagine running a CEC meeting where 7 people like you, 5 people think you're doing a good job and almost 70 dislike you, think you're inept and want you gone.
I can tell you 100% for sure, Denton County CEC meetings will only get worse with Brent Biden (Jayne & Diane really) at the helm. It will not stop so come prepared RINOs.
Added bonus: What the heck is going on with Jim Johnson? Not very good "Judge"-ment. Maybe that needs to change too.
This is what making everyone play by the same set of rules looks like. It’s not bad enough we have to fight the psycho dems but we also have to fight our own establishment. After fallowing all the rules to hold a special meeting the “establishment” doesn’t recognize it because the resolutions aren’t in their best interest. Most of the resolutions restore power to the body of the CEC and away from the county chair and his followers.
An easy way to recognize an establishment (rino) is when they call us trying to holding them to the rules as “extremist”.
This meeting has to happen or we lose our party. You have choices. Constitutionalist, establishment and liberals. It shouldn’t be a difficult choice.
We are finally winning. This is why the meeting was so chaotic. Brent and his followers no longer have the votes to do their bidding and we, the grassroots do.
Brents followers (establishment) did exactly what he instructed them to do during a zoom meeting he had with them prior to the meeting. He called for all the chaos.
Does Brent have an attorney advising him and if so, who is it?
And don't get me started on the average voter.
I would like to point out the fact that our Party, at least the Conservative base, has been under attack since Obama's first term and likely before that. Battleground Texas has been working non stop to infiltrate the Party working with the established GOP RINOs and ex Gingrich Contract With America bunch of traitors to destroy the Conservative base of this Party. We must exorcise our Party of this poisonous element with extreme prejudice and a no holds barred style of fighting them because that is exactly what they are doing to the rank and file conservative base who have aligned with MAGA patriots to try and save this country.
Stories like this underscore the need for our state Legislature to take a look at our election code. I generally think our primaries should not be open primaries as they are now. This would do a lot. I also think we may do well by making the EC members elect the position of County Chair. There have been too many issues in recent years. Does Rob Morrow come to mind?
You continually prove that this site is dedicated to spin and propaganda of extremists. If you would like to exhibit true journalism then start interviewing both sides. The clown show was instigated and planned by a fanatical group that just wants to take control of meetings and shows no desire to do the actual work of the county party; which is to help promote republican candidates and move more elected offices into the R column.
For example: How can you enter activities that happened in February into the meeting minutes of January. You cannot time travel into the future for the past minutes. That is out of order. A small vocal minority wants to host meetings in shady back rooms, not for the purpose of getting out the vote or registering more republican voters. No instead they plot to take over the DCRP. And that is the real story that your site refuses to acknowledge.
The sane republicans of Denton County which represent a large majority are embarrassed by the clown show hosted by the fringe. It turns off voters, and the Democrats are loving every second. The very Precinct Chair you show in the video at the mic was a card carrying member of the Democrat party at one point, and maybe a plant now.
Buckle up buttercup because Brent Biden and his crew of losers will get the same treatment every single CEC meeting until he is gone. The Denton County good Ole girl club is coming to an end as Jayne & Diane will turn into oil soon and the grassroots Patriots will continue defending the County from leftist trolls and establishment hacks like Brent Biden and his immoral, perverted friends & family.
You must be a part of the disgraceful BIG TENT dupes, fools and tools of the left. You think that by constantly backhanding and offending your core conservative base and playing kissy foot and kissy ass with the leftards of the Party we will gain more Republicans. How disconnected from reality you must be. It is those like you who must be forced from the Party and moved to the RAT Party where you would be more at home. Your days are numbered because Americans are waking up more and more every day and realizing why people like you pose an even bigger danger to conservatism than the left does because you pretend to be a Republican when you seriously are not.
We're extremists how? Because we believe there are 2 genders and we want fair elections? Funny you call us extremists while adopting leftist talking points.
Democracy is a hell of a thing when *your* side is the minority. Which was the case last Thursday. It's laughable you have the audacity to call the majority of precinct chairs a "small vocal minority" while saying a "real story" needs to be told. You're a liar, a schizophrenic, or senile.
You can't register for a party in the state of Texas so it's impossible to be a "card carrying" member of *any* party. And this statement is laughable while your guy Brent donated money to a Democrat candidate.
I can provide a zoom call of these crazies who actually did plan this chaos. Please publish this! So we can let them see who they are defending......
We pulled Lincoln's voting record and it shows no record of voting in a Democrat primary. Ever.
You're crying about name calling while calling those who disagree with you extremists, democrats, and fanatics. Hilarious.
That "fanatical group" is the majority of Denton GOP now who simply want the rules to be followed. If a majority of the PCs present had voted to sustain the chairman the meeting would have gone on, but of course they didn't. The current chairman wants to disregard the rules and run the party like a dictator. And the true democrat "plant" is more likely the current chairman who donated to a known democrat in a blatant violation of the oath he took as a precinct chair.
Wow. Almost sounds like Tarrant County.
The chairman was following the rules and the Parliamentarian which is a sitting Judge in Denton county agreed. The lack of decorum for the Chair and Judge are shameful.
Lies: Here are the rules we followed quite clearly stated: Rule 62:5 To raise a point of order, a member rises and, without waiting to be recognized, immediately addresses the chair, saying, "I rise to a point of order," or simply, "Point of order!" The chair must then ask the member to state the point; and after the member does so, the chair is obligated either to rule whether the point is "well taken" --- briefly stating the reasons for the ruling---or to submit the question to the assembly.
Appeal the decision of the chair
Rule 62:6 Immediately after the chair makes a ruling, any member who disagrees with it may then move an Appeal (unless another Appeal is already pending or an appeal would be dilatory because there cannot possibly be two reasonable opinions on the question.) The member does this by rising and, without waiting to be recognized, addressing the chair, saying, "I appeal from the decision of the chair." If the Appeal is seconded, the chair must state the question on it, clearly explain the exact parliamentary question at issue, allow any permissible debate and put the question to a vote, as shown in 24.
If the Chair fails to to respond to the Point of Order
Rule 62:7 These procedures enable the majority to ensure enforcement of the rules unless the chair fails to respond to and resolve the Point of Order, fails to respond appropriately to any Appeal, or fails to act in accordance with the assembly's decision on the Appeal (or on a Point of Order submitted by the chair to the assembly).
Rule 62:8 If the chair ignores a point of order that is not dilatory, the member can repeat the point of order a second and third time and if the chair still ignores it, the member, standing in his place, can immediately put the point of order to a vote without debate. The question may be put as, "Is the point of order that ... well taken? If the point of order was that the chair improperly ignored another motion, the member may, instead of repeating the point of order, repeat the original motion, and if it is seconded and if the chair still ignores it, may, standing in his place, put the ignored motion to vote without debate.
Rule 62:9 Likewise, if the chair ignores an appeal appropriately made and seconded, a member can repeat the appeal and if, despite it being seconded, the chair ignores it again, the member can repeat it a third time and if it is again seconded but still ignored by the the chair, the member can immediately, standing in his place, put the appeal to a vote without debate. The question may be put as: "Shall the decision of the chair be sustained?"
You cannot appeal a bylaw. We already settled all our bylaws in the Organizational meeting. Why does this keep coming up?
More lies: "3.03 Special Meetings. Special Meetings of the Executive Committee to consider items of urgent
business may be held at any time upon a written call issued by the County Chairman by mail or
email, or a written call signed by twenty percent (20%) or more of members of the Executive
Committee in office at the time of signing the call." The bylaw nowhere states that the chairman has sole discretion to determine what is urgent or not. The bylaw does not even mention a parliamentarian. So this is more proof the chairman thinks he can disregard the bylaws and rule like a tinhorn dictator.
The illegitimately elected democrat doner learned last Thursday that he can't rule the party like a tinhorn communist dictator.
As Mr. Earnest said below, same thing happening in Montgomery County except we do know the chairman's wife is a political consultant, funded by two commissioners, as well as a fellow RINO minority of sycophants who're trying to take control of the local party by ignoring the Election Code (172.118) in not uploading the majority's appointments to precinct chair positions, RPT Rules (while the RPT Chair and many of the RINO SREC remain silent), our own bylaws and Roberts Rule(RONR). What does it say about the party chair and many in the SREC when they won't enforce the state party's rules against a rogue chair? Unfortunately they didn't take a stand and we had to take it to the courts.
Hearing this a lot across Texas. Lack of action by greater party powers and SREC. Is it lack of power to enforce?
The Republican Party of Texas(RPT) Rules give the RPT/SREC enforcement powers (see No's. 4, 5 & 8). Each one is clear giving the RPT/SREC their authority.
https://texasgop.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/RPT-General-Rules-As-Amended-2023-03-04.pdf
Apparently, the SREC felt it was beneath them to take action on their own rules(and/or were protecting their county chairs), so we took it straight to SCOTX in the form of a Writ of Mandamus, bypassing all of the recusals that would certainly happen at the District and Appellate levels.
I was at that CEC meeting, I’m just a concerned American voter, I recorded the whole thing. How did Brent Hagenbuch get elected? He is divisive to say the least and wonder what his real motivations really are. What does an average person do to get him kicked out of the party? He clearly does not represent my interests in the Republican Party. I was proud of the 67 Precinct Chairs that stood up to him!
Look no further than when Rob Morrow was elected as Republican County Chair for Travis County over James Dickey, who later ended up being Chairman of the RPT.
Good question. Why is he so desperate to stay in charge of a group where the majority wants him gone?
Exactly! Why? My understanding is that Brent was the only one on the ballot for Chair, there were other applications that did not get processed for one reason or another. I’d like to know why they didn’t process the other applications and why there is no exception to process so there’s more than one person in the ballot.
The other applicant's application to run was deliberately sabotaged by the establishment GOP at party headquarters.
That’s what I’m hearing and I hope that applicant files a lawsuit, this kind of shenanigans needs to stop.
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Same issue in Montgomery County
Imagine running a CEC meeting where 7 people like you, 5 people think you're doing a good job and almost 70 dislike you, think you're inept and want you gone.
I can tell you 100% for sure, Denton County CEC meetings will only get worse with Brent Biden (Jayne & Diane really) at the helm. It will not stop so come prepared RINOs.
Added bonus: What the heck is going on with Jim Johnson? Not very good "Judge"-ment. Maybe that needs to change too.